Which gets faster Experience? Saradomin Sword/Abyssal Whip or Godsword?

This guide compares the experience obtained, time-wise, between the Saradomin Sword and a Godsword. It doesn't compare Prayer, Special Attacks, or other bonuses.

All Godswords have the same basic stats and differ in their special attacks.

Here are the stats for each sword:

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Sword       Slash    Str   Pryr

Sara Swd    + 82    + 82   +2
GodSword    +132    +132   +8

How does this translate into max hit?

My medium-level character with 62 Strength had Dragon Boots (+4 Str), Fury (+12 Str) and regular gloves (+2 Str) from the Recipe for Disaster. Equipped with these, the swords max-hit as follows:

Sara: 18
G0dS: 24

Now it may seem that the Godsword has an advantage over the Saradomin, but one thing hasn't been taken into account: the speed of the weapons. The Saradomin Sword hits as fast as a scimitar or the Abyssal Whip. It connects once every 2.5 seconds. The Godswords are slower, hitting every 3.5 seconds.

The Sara, hits 18, divided by 2.5 seconds, or a hit-per-second of 7.2.

The Godswords hit for 24, divided by 3.5 seconds, for a hit-per-second of 6.85.

In other words, the Sara Sword hits for more damage per second than the much more expensive Godswords.

Of course the swords don't hit for the maximum every time, but the less they hit for, the less difference the stronger sword has over the lesser one. Since the swords still hit at the same speed, the difference in performance will be worse for the larger sword. The advantage of the bigger sword is that the first hit doesn't have a time constraint on it, and the larger sword hits harder.

Now equipping the same swords and the same equipment on a high level character, with 99 Strength, we get the following:

Sara: 28
GodS: 37

The Sara hits for 28 / 2.5, or 11.2 damager per second

The Godswords hit for 37 / 3.5, or 10.6 per second.

So again, the Sara Sword hits for more damage per second.

Of course, the swords can hit higher with more Strength-boosting equipment, potions, Prayer, etc. But the ratio stays about the same.

I trained my medium character in the Stronghold for an hour with a Sara Sword, and Abyssal Whip and a Bandos Godsword. The Sara earned 33,860 experience, the Whip 33,520, and the BGS earned 31,120.

Of course, this doesn't mean that the Godswords are never better than a Sara Sword, beause they do have specials that are useful for certain situations. But for everyday training, the Saradomin Sword, selling for about 8.7m, actually outperforms the Godswords, with their 30m-91m price tags.

So if the main reason you're saving up for that Godsword is to train faster----well, it doesn't. However, they do look cool and have great animations.

NOTE: An Abyssal Whip has the same stats, speed, and hit rate as the Saradomin Sword. The differences are that the Whip doesn't train Strength, but it does have the advantage of allowing a shield to be equipped.

 

very detailed when i had 70m or so before i got hacked i tried a godsword and couldnt take on people 2 or 3 lvls over me now with a dfs i can take on 5-10 lvls over me,even some with 99 str

 

its saradomin sword it faster then any god sword but you have 2 use dds spec...got 220k str xp/h with ss with only 95 str

 

very true

 

This is incorrect.

The higher slash/stab bonuses mean that you will hit more accurately on high def monsters.

The higher max means that monster of low hp will require less 2 hits and more 1 hits, in which the first hit is always the same speed.

Rune defender or dfs /dds/Whip works better than sara sword by a marginal amount.

Godswords are superior when fighting monsters actually worth fighting, if you've ever been to godwars for example. Even training, there are many monsters where GS's are better.

 

Not many people train on high defense monsters.

The topic is about which of the three weapons gets faster experience, not which is best for Kalphite Queen, Barrows Brothers, Dragons, Fight Cave, Godwars, or some specific NPC.

A Whip can't be used to train Strength itself, and I wasn't aware that a Dragonfire Shield gave any experience.

I suppose that if you went searching for an NPC that can be one-hit by a Godsword, where a Sara Sword won't, you might make more experience per hour, assuming that you can one-hit them about 10-15% more often with one sword than the other.

 

I hope I'm hearing you correctly. Please don't tell me that there aren't people who

a. Use slayer actively to train.
b. Have 50+ slayer.

DFS is for +7 str bonus... duh.

 

What's your point? To prove that a SS isn't the best choice 100% of the time? Everybody knows that.

If you read the topic and opening post, you will know that the topic is what gets Experience faster....A SS or Whip vs a GS. Not a DDS, not other weapons, not Barrows. Except for a nitpicker, most people understand that if melee weapons are being compared, that probably means Atk/Str/Def exp. Not everybody trains Slayer, and not every Slayer monster is going to work better with whatever unique combination you have.

A Whip and DFS or Obby will train faster than a SS would because of the higher Str. A GS won't train faster than either of them unless you find something that can OHK 20% more often, so again you're looking for exceptions to the rule. A Whip won't train Str, so if training Str a SS is better than a GS most of the time.

Godswords are expensive status symbols in my opinion.

 

This is a very informative guide! Thanks, I will probably use a sara sword in future rather than saving for the sara godsword but I think perhaps the other godswords may be different again but this is useful anyway

 

not possible to get 220k strength exp an hour. sorry

 

I'm starting to think that you will suck his nuts regardless of topic.

You think godswords are status symbols, and therefore your experience is non-objective. I'm not even sure anymore if anything you say is valid.

What's my point?

Here's the word "slander". You are slandering math. Math is meant to prove points. If you fail to observe all lurking variables, the whole equation fails. You can't calculate real acceleration without wind drag, and you can't say that because the number of pirates in the world is going down at the same rate at which global warming is happenning, that global warming kills pirates.

You failed to acknowledge accuracy as a key component in training. if you did your math with "iron" knives instead you'd be WAY off.

I support this thread, but before making a definitive conclusion (unless you can calculate the probability of a hit using the stab/slah and moster def info), you must test a broader range of monsters.

Sara Sword isn't the best even 50% of the time from my experience, but since I do not have enough data to back this, I welcome you to fill the void.

 

I happen to agree and understand what you are saying thequestionmark though I haven't used the sara sword yet.

 

And I see you stalking him from thread to thread, talking exactly like Geno, haxirs, and the other clones they made. You all have the same order of logic, the same writing style. I wouldn't be surprised if you were the same person. "Slander" hit the bullseye. Nobody besides the person/people from rscheata tosses that word around freely here.

You go off-topic like rscheata, too, trying to discredit in ways not related to the topic and of course always attacking the poster. I saw your original post here before you edited it. It's logged by the board.

The topic is about GS vs SS or Whip. Not about whether SS is the best sword in every instance. I don't expect you to stay on-topic, because you have ZERO chance of gaining support that way. So go right on attacking people and introducing situations not covered by the topic, or find the 4% of cases where the topic poster's conjecture isn't true, so you can say "It's false."

It's not false.

 

Slander: Slander is an untruthful statement about a person that harms the person's reputation or standing in the community.

Seeing as how I obviously do NOT support the Nexus bot, or have a registered account there, or don't understand how feasible it is to travel 1 year 5 months in the past to become a "clone"... .

I did not edit my second post. The first post was edited to removed the edge off my words and say something more beneficial for this thread? I do NOT see any attacks on the o.p. in this particular thread. I hope you don't see a problem with that.

The situation covered here is "This guide compares the experience obtained, time-wise, between the Saradomin Sword and a Godsword. It doesn't compare Prayer, Special Attacks, or other bonuses."

I did NOT introduce a situation not covered by this topic.

You know people bull shit when they pull things like "4%". Might as well put I don't know the number so X% instead. Would be a more convincing argument. I find it funny how you quoted "it's false". If it's in quotes, quote it then? What I actually said was "Godswords are superior when fighting monsters actually worth fighting". However, after realizing that this was not backed by any fact lemme quote myself again "Sara Sword isn't the best even 50% of the time from my experience, but since I do not have enough data to back this, I welcome you to fill the void.".

Once again, incorrect.



So seriously, before YOU PULL NUMBERS out of your ass, make false accusations on a member who has a much longer-standing reputation than you (especially since you 2 joined the same month, 3months ago), use your noggin. Seriously, it's more fun arguing with Tom jr seeing as there are at least some thigns I hear worth listening to. Maybe a semantics freak, maybe both semantic freaks, but w/e.

 

sara swords blow in general. They almost never hit high even with att and str. And it depends on the godsword. Also, it depends on the monster you are fighting etc. And, why exactly would you caculate your xp gained over 3hours..?

 

It is possible actually, just depends on where you train, with what weapon,what your strength and sttack bonuses and levels are. Do not post that it is inpossible without REAL proof.

 

Whip + defender = FASTER EXP

 

Im not sure but people for strength xp use full dh at Monkey Guards

 

Saradomin swords Str bonus Compared to whip is?

 

The saradomin sword has the same stats as the whip only it takes two hands giving up the valuable +5 str bonus the rune def has with a whip. ^^ Personally I have never used a sara sword as I understand its about as good to use a dscimmy with a rune defender but I'd be willing to try it after I get 99 fishing. And thequestionmark brings up damn good points if you are training on high def monsters because you want cash while you train or you are training slayer then a different weapon would be more efficient. And yes many people do train that way >.>