Lost 800M on Chicksgold [Continuation]

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Lost 800M on Chicksgold [Continuation]
  1. Unread #1 - Jul 5, 2020 at 6:33 PM
  2. Plexifer
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    Lost 800M on Chicksgold [Continuation]

    Well, since someone locked the thread and did not even give me a chance to reply so I am posting this here. I have some points I want to make and want people to see this.

    First of all I would like to tell that I am greatly discomforted and let me tell you why. Yes, ofcourse it sucks to lose 800m but what makes me sick is how biased you have been in handling this report Lost 800m on rented account @Pirate
    I can understand that my report is against a trusted sythe user, with a sythe admin and mod working for/with him if im not misstaken but does that mean that I have no rights to be threated fairly?

    So by now you probably think im just mad of the outcome but let me put some facts in play. Here is for example one crucial point you failed to make, a user from sythe @Stewie pm'd me this thread A WARNING TO EVERYONE THAT RENTS OUT ACCOUNTS but you did not even mention this as a posibility of what could of happened.

    As you said you read the ''Chat transctipts'' You can see that the chat operator changed the password to the account when i had rented it for 1h, I don't know why he did that even tho i got scammed I had the rights for the account for 1h, I feel like he changed the password so I never had a change to go on the website and check if there was anything linked that could of caused the previous renter to log me out.

    Another thing is that when the user @StakeGP.com posted that there was a possible exploit with renting out accounts someone chose to remove his comment, im not sure but i feel like the information could of been bad for the other party in this scam report.

    I also had video proof of the incident but since this aint enough apparently I just want to tell everyone who rents out accounts one thing. It seems to me that you all are allowed to scout and attempt to login on the accounts you rent out and empty them since this can never be held against you, even if it was not you and you did a sloppy job with removing unlinked accounts don't worry this can't be held against you either. And when you choose to go with someone really trusted, remember that his/her side will be favored in a report, since trusted users do no wrong, allegedly. As I said what could I expect when I made the scam report, I guess people look out for their own...
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Jul 5, 2020 at 8:28 PM
  4. Pirate
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    Detective Two Factor Authentication User Staff of the Quarter Winner St. Patrick's Day 2024 Hoover The Glizz Verified Ironman Dragon Claws Nitro Booster (3)
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    Pirate

    Lost 800M on Chicksgold [Continuation]

    @Plexifer i am in no way affiliated with chicks or have any communication with the person. my resolution was not biased at all. yes i'm aware of social logins, i am the one that mentioned it in the first place, though again, it can't be proven. you could have easily faked the account being booted by a friend or another window as I mentioned in the previous report. you mentioned that the chat operator changed the password before the 1hr was over, so you had no way of checking if the social connection had something connected, if this was a concern at the time... why wouldnt you check that in the first place? your just using it as an excuse now that you know about it. As i said before, it's almost impossible in this case to say who kicked you off the account. You could have done it just as much as @veng could have done it, but again, i only make unbiased resolutions based on the facts and evidence provided. please let me know if you have any further proof of @veng or @Chicks booting you off of the account.
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Jul 5, 2020 at 8:57 PM
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    Lost 800M on Chicksgold [Continuation]

    So you honestly expect that the first thing in the middle of this situation is for me to think about social logins, i heard about it after in a pm and when you think why he wanted to change password so fast after you could possibly understand.
     
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  7. Unread #4 - Jul 5, 2020 at 9:02 PM
  8. Pirate
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    Pirate

    Lost 800M on Chicksgold [Continuation]

    Your words not mine, you mentioned it did you not? Do you have anything new to add to the report or not?
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Jul 6, 2020 at 6:20 AM
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    Detective Two Factor Authentication User Staff of the Quarter Winner St. Patrick's Day 2024 Hoover The Glizz Verified Ironman Dragon Claws Nitro Booster (3)
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    Pirate

    Lost 800M on Chicksgold [Continuation]

    So here is a breakdown of the possibilities of what happened. Any of them are possible but I CANT force someone to pay 800m without solid proof (words, pics, videos) that a SPECIFIC party indeed scammed the other party. The best evidence for getting scammed on a rental would be a user recording themselves online actively staking, and they get kicked attempt to log in to see the password changed. In this report the user was staking, attempted to change worlds, and was kicked off the account but the password remained the same. That means as soon as the OP click changed worlds, someone was actively trying to log into the account.
    Possibilities -
    1. Someone else set a social connection to the account (previous renter), and somehow knew you were changing worlds and logged in to the account.
    2. OP or a friend used a mobile device to log into the account as the character was shown hoping worlds.
    3. The chat operator, @veng somehow knew you were changing worlds and sniped the gold off the account.
    4. @Chicks decided to log into the account randomly to stake as soon as the op were hoping worlds

    Again these are all possibilities, you did the right thing and took a video but i justify making someone responsible for the 800m that was on the account when you were 'kicked'.
    The setting of social accounts on rentals is a known issue. The password to an account is the master key to an account. It's as easy a clicking a button in the profile section to set a social link, and just as easy to delete a link. This is almost impossible to track, as both the renter or service are capable of setting a social connection because they both have the password. A user came forward and admitted to kicking the @Plexifer off the account and stealing the 800m, posting a video of him actively setting a social connection on chicks rental account, but account he was setting the social connection on an account he was actively renting, and was not the account in question regarding the 800m. It has been hidden due to showing chicks stakers rsn's.
     
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    Last edited: Jul 6, 2020
  11. Unread #6 - Jul 6, 2020 at 6:23 AM
  12. Pirate
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    Pirate

    Lost 800M on Chicksgold [Continuation]

    At the end of the day, its you showing a video of you changing worlds, and someone else logging into the account. It's impossible to say what happened. But as I mentioned in discord @Plexifer i'll do what i can
     
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