Ethan (rat) aka Evoolution

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  1. Unread #1 - Dec 24, 2019 at 1:10 AM
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    Ethan (rat) aka Evoolution

    Evoolution requesting pardon for tweeting jagex

    Aren't people not supposed to lie in pardons? Realistically aren't they supposed to be denied for 6 months if a user is caught openly lying ?

    This user's entire pardon is based on him claiming it wasn't malicious intent and that he had information from jagex that they were doing a ban wave soon, even more bs in that he knew it was particularly people using port forwarding.

    Has he showed ANY evidence at all to staff ? If not I don't see why his pardon was passed into voting instead of being denied for not being honest about his offenses? If anyone who was banned for scamming refused to admit that they'd scammed someone in their pardon wouldn't it not be processed?

    Now let's get into the ~250 infernal cape bans Ethan is responsible for!

    Mod Tyran on Twitter

    250 capes were removed on the next ban wave not long after Ethan told jagex (Tyran being one of the jmods specifically haha, what a coincidence!) to look into portforwarding that were all from 2018.

    Weird because there's been more than one ban wave between that wave and way back in 2018, for instance:
    Mod Tyran on Twitter
    Omnia on Twitter

    But what's changed since 2018? Ah right little ethan decided to be a rat for the sake of his own business and rag other cape sellers (and by extension, their buyers!)

    Multiple sellers on sythe use / have used this method, and thus several capes were done through this method. Ethan however, as he admits himself in his own pardon doesn't use this method... meaning he wouldn't be at risk of ban nor would any of his buyers. But others sellers (his competition) would! And not only that but any sellers who took serious hits from this could suffer tarnished reputations and loss of business, all while ethan could flex that he didn't have any bans in this wave (250 of which he caused.) And even then many buyers would likely want to buy another cape but look for other sellers, such as himself instead of one who had gotten them banned before. He had a LOT to gain from this and nothing to lose...

    Let's low ball and I mean REALLY low ball the value of the capes at ~$100 each, which I think sythe staff will agree there's no possible way that this is a realistic figure and is far too low especially considering many were not with max gear/were pures and other limited builds/were irons.

    This puts damages at:
    No less than and quite literally significantly more than $25,000
    Damage to reputations of any seller whose customers were included in the 250 bans from older capes
    Damage to reputations of buyers who otherwise would have not been effected (results in you being permanently banned/blacklisted from joining any PvM clan and most other types of clans barring PvP clans on OSRS if caught)

    You can even see on this thread that many individuals who had capes for months/from 2018, surviving other ban waves, all of a sudden had been banned and lost their capes and portforwarding is even mentioned specifically:
    141 Infernal Capes Removed, 705 Total

    Fact is all these bans took place when before they'd not been handed out, or even escaped multiple ban waves. The one differing factor is that this time Ethan ratted out other sellers and buyers alike for personal gain, resulting in several being banned.

    I think it's reasonable to state that rats put Sythe's market at serious risk because it can discourage buyers completely and permanently damage sellers reputation. Not only this but has there ever been ANYONE whose been as big of a rat as ethan and the amount of people he snitched on / got banned? Except maybe Folt that is (perm banned btw lol). It's also pretty obvious he caused serious monetary loss. But he's not being required to repay ANYTHING? And furthermore his pardon is being processed when he's clearly lied in it.

    I'd like sythe staff, if you're considering voting on Ethan's pardon, seriously consider this: He claims he had information but refuses to provide a SINGLE shred of evidence proving this. Furthermore he claims this was to find out when the ban wave would happen, and that he knew it'd be happening to people using the portforwarding method. But by Ethan's own admission he doesn't use and has NEVER used this method. So why go as far as to tweet about it and make the head of anticheating (weath) and the jagex mod most prominently involved in infernal cape bans (Tyran) aware of this method in particular? As a seller who doesn't use this method, this information would have no effect on him in the slightest but he still felt the need to mention it ? :/ Little weird if you ask me

    Ethan was just asking to be aware of if they'd be banning people with this method... but it's a method he doesn't use..

    Ethan "heard" that there was going to be a ban wave soon, not only that but claims this came originally from jagex themselves.. but has no proof whatsoever of this lol!

    How can his pardon be processed with blatant lies and severe lack of evidence of any of the claims that make up his pardon?

    Jagex have never done such a thing, why would Ethan have any reason to believe they'd answer his question when this would not only tip off sellers/buyers (does ANY single sythe staff member believe they would have given him this information? serious question lmfao) It's because he wasn't expecting an answer... he just wanted them to look into his competition

    Lastly it's funny how Ethan claims to be such a good person that he'd be doing this community such a service... He's a member of not one, not two, but THREE clans known for doxing/DDoSing - Frontline, Harassers, and Revenant
    Proof:
    http://prntscr.com/qf0ie1
    http://prntscr.com/qf0ii4
    http://prntscr.com/qf0inj

    Proof of Frontline Doxing / DDoSing :




    http://prntscr.com/qf0jf1
    http://prntscr.com/qf0jl3
    Image from his leader's post showing files containing doxes of rival clan members - very clearly showcasing their irl names as well https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568160566418472960/654477332001718287/image0.jpg

    In reality there's way too much evidence of frontline doing this shit - i'm sure anyone moderately familiar with the OSRS community knows this. Fortunately their discord is public and any staff who care can join and look through themselves - be prepared to lose a few brain cells.
    Join the ~ The Untouchable Frontline Empire ~ Discord Server!

    On to revenant - a very recent example being them doxing a member who left for another clan - not only this but also posting pictures of his family and using them as emotes in their clan's discord as well as hacking his OSRS account. They even made other peoples' IRLs from other clans into emotes too... a truly shameless example of doxing
    Wars on Twitter
    http://prntscr.com/qf0las
    http://prntscr.com/qf0ll4
    http://prntscr.com/qf0lt6
    http://prntscr.com/qf0lwt
    (2nd and 3rd are ex CT official Kapron and ex CT official/current rot applicant Blazinq - can provide evidence of the latter)
    Them changing said member's forum account name to his real name and his avatar to his real photo:
    https://rev-rs.net/community/index.php?/topic/17613-/
    http://prntscr.com/qf0n68
    Join the Revenant Discord Server! - public discord - where you can see plenty of evidence of this behavior

    Harassers:
    http://prntscr.com/qf0oa6
    http://prntscr.com/qf0ocw (The offset they're talking about is a rot applicant btw - them doxing his sister http://prntscr.com/qf0oii )

    I guess the type of person that'd willingly join and partake in doxing with not one not two but not three clans is the type of person who should be trusted with other peoples' personal information via sales/having control of their pc though? And surely Ethan is just as good of a guy as he claims in his pardon.

    Or maybe.. just maybe.. he's a huge rat that shouldn't be allowed on Sythe, is a danger to the community, and was only out to get others caught to benefit his own business..

    I hope staff put serious consideration into putting his pardon on hold until he:
    A. Provides even a single shred of evidence of his claims - otherwise he's lying in his pardon!
    B. Explains how the tweet very clearly showing him NOT asking if they knew about but rather asking for them to look into a method was intended to be him trying to gain this knowledge for any sort of reason when this information doesn't pertain to him - because he doesn't use this method.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Dec 24, 2019 at 1:31 AM
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    Ethan (rat) aka Evoolution

    My pardon has all relevant information to prove i had absolutely 0 malicious intent with what i was tweeting, the proof is hidden to the public tho (contains sensitive information, including how i got information that the portfowarding wave was due to happen ahead of time.), i am not responsible for any bans that have ever happened, my tweet was simply me trying to find a date for when that ban wave was happening. I have to act like im not a cape seller for even a small % chance of a reply, hence why i said about people not getting banned. Its not as if jagex are oblivious to the methods people are using to obtaining inferno capes. lol

    bringing up past activities of runescape clans im apart of has absolutely 0 affect on my sythe, i keep them completely separate and i have 0 involvement with any of the activities you have mentioned, i am in runescape clans strictly for runescape, i disagree with all out of game activity, just being apart of a clan doesn't mean i am responsible for their members actions.
    I appreciate that you took the time out of your day to witch hunt me tho.

    This is quite blatantly an attempt at witch hunting by an opposing clan lmao
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Dec 24, 2019 at 1:46 AM
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    Ethan (rat) aka Evoolution

    not to drag people into something so stupid, various sellers such as pink clay (most reputable/popular seller), all knew about the fact this ban wave was coming before it had happened. I wasn't the only person who had this information.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Dec 24, 2019 at 2:18 AM
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    Nice reply, Ethan! I hope Sythe staff get a kick out of whatever faked evidence you could provide to "prove" you knew about the ban wave ahead of time - especially SPECIFICALLY that portforwarded capes would be included - and even more so that you knew this information was straight from jagex yourself.

    Question - If you had this information why did you need to ask? Furthermore, why would you need to ask AT ALL if this is really what you claim - seeing as you by your own admission have never used such a method. There's no reason at all even if what you're claiming is true that you should have mentioned portforwarding AT ALL. If anything wouldn't this risk whatever informant you had who provided you with this information being found out by jagex - or whatever jmod let this info slip be aware that you / others knew about it and thus stop providing information / being talkative altogether? Asking about a ban wave involving a method you don't use - risking any "informants" by naming very specific information ? Sure man that's totally believable. Or maybe you're just a snitch. Make as many bs claims about knowing about the wave as you want but that won't change - nor will the fact that none of the claims you've made would require you having to mention the portfowarding let alone asking them to look into it. Furthermore you've claimed you have to look less like a seller to get a chance of a reply (which once again, why would you need this with information supposedly from Jagex?) - how does one go about looking less of a seller by naming a specific method people use to buy infernal capes ? I'm pretty sure if Sythe staff were to look at any tweet to anti cheating mods they wouldn't see stakers who sell gold saying "Hey weath can you look into this guy he's probably selling via this method to these people" and then claiming with any sort of believability that they were "pretending not to seem like another staker ratting on their competition."

    If your pardon were true you had no reason to ask, as a matter of a fact asking especially in the specific way you did would risk plugging any leaks and exposing any informants.

    If your pardon were true, you had no reason to specifically mention port forwarding in the first place.

    If your pardon were true, you wouldn't go about looking like less of a seller by showcasing knowledge of infernal cape sellers methods - many average players not associated with buying / selling capes don't know this information. Why would this make you seem LESS like a seller LMFAO ?

    I thought your pardon was poorly formed and seemingly written by someone who was disabled with shit logic but your reply knocked it right out of the water, proud of you champ.


    As for the second part i'm not affiliated with any rival clans trying to "witch hunt" you - I merely show concern for someone whose part of / partaking in so much questionable activity as you, being allowed on Sythe and being able to come in contact with peoples' personal information. I'll gladly provide evidence (in private) to a staff member of my own choice that i'm not a part of any rival clans if you're willing to provide me a list of clans you think I may be in - and any staff member deems it pertinent to the case. I'll start you out: RoT / Sv / Team Sweden / DK / 2k + 1750's rev ccs / NL / Wolves / Kanini / Flamingos / GSG / CT / AC - i'm not in any of these clans nor any clan for that matter.

    Also i'd love to hear about how you disagree with ingame activity while your leader's discord display is currently someone's IRL name and they've publicly posted dox information on their twitter / in their discord / just about everywhere. Not only this but you've remained in all 3 clans "for runescape" but there's tons of clans in runescape that don't participate in such behavior, at least nowhere near the degree that the clans you ARE part of do. So why don't you join one of those instead ? Why don't you leave the clans that are so notoriously involved in out of game activity... even your leaders have discussed doxing their own members in case they spy -

    But you remain a member of their clan... knowing they're doxing you and all your friends... interesting mate you seem well against out of game activity I must agree.

    Also if other sellers, including pink clay as you mention, had this info and knew when the wave was coming, that only means you had less reason to go about asking, no? Not only you but multiple other sellers knew... so why the tweet pointing the finger at a specific caping method (one which coincidentally you don't use.. and by your own admission you allegedly already knew would be included in the ban wave). As if that would make them less suspicious of you as a possible seller, or more inclined to give up information. Also would love to hear why you think they'd give out information that they've never given out in the past and would completely defeat the point of them trying to keep the ban waves a secret ? Not to mention weath has publicly stated numerous times that they don't give up information on how they detect people so idk why they would state whether or not they'd looked into portforwarding.. which once again wouldn't even be relevant.
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Dec 24, 2019 at 2:37 AM
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    Ethan (rat) aka Evoolution

    You're right i didn't really NEED to know this information, i was just curious. and it is absolutely relevant with what i do, i will use what i know to advise people if i think a method is not safe. Asking this question about portfowarding may also be relevant to me, if it does somehow come to light that jagex were unable to detect this method, maybe i would adopt it into my selling methods. It is a method which allows for you to complete capes at a much longer distance around the world.
    It is not nearly as secretive as you are making it out to be or i would be requesting lots more information be taken out from the pardon. Furthermore
    chunks of my pardon are taken out as they contain sensitive information.
    jagex knew about portfowarding, they are not stupid, they know about teamviewer, they also just understand teamviewer will never be detectable.
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    As this is an ongoing pardon, all I can say is that this report does not contain much information we do not already have access to. The pardon will be decided on with full information though
     
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