Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

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Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.
  1. Unread #1 - Oct 8, 2024 at 1:54 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    Describe the problem:
    Employees are allowed to advertise while working for the company.
    What current rule(s) tackle this problem:
    Explain the change:
    Explain why this change will fix the problem:
    At times, it can be difficult for staff to prove if a party is partaking in "Attempting To Bypass the 1 Thread per Market Section Limit," as they can simply claim the other party is working under rather than having ownership in a company. By making this rule more strict, it will reduce ambiguity.

    Side-effects:

    Employees won't be able to advertise on Sythe.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Oct 8, 2024 at 2:11 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    Only people I see being against this are the ones bypassing the limit. Should be changed without community input.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Oct 8, 2024 at 3:36 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    I like this, I also wish there was something against 20 discords hiring 1 person to create a thread in that section each, just to have them all leading to the same person and prices under an "employer"
     
  7. Unread #4 - Oct 9, 2024 at 2:07 AM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    Well you can easily work around this by making your employees use different discord in your server, and no one will know who they are, but I think it's a positive change overall for market health
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Oct 9, 2024 at 4:14 AM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    It's the reason we have a strict non compete in our workers agreements.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Oct 10, 2024 at 7:34 AM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    The rule you linked is a sectional rule in the Runescape Gold Exchange section.
    It sounds like you want this changed for services as well.
    I think this needs more explaining. When is someone considered a worker?
    If I hire someone to make an account for me, they are working for me. Presuming I advertise in a service seciton, can they now not advertise there either?
    Or are you only referring to workers that do jobs within a Discord server and/or website?
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Oct 10, 2024 at 2:03 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    Someone who works on the front face of business for example account services. A contractor is someone who you outsource to and isn't involved in tickets so on (Think Inferno capes)

    You are buying a product from them and selling it, this would fall under contractor.

    This is correct.
     
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  15. Unread #8 - Oct 10, 2024 at 3:34 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    Ye
     
  17. Unread #9 - Oct 10, 2024 at 6:46 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    Support - larger market users who have employees working for them to the point they can have multiple threads going for the same business just creates a monopoly and is not fair on the smaller, independent market users attempting to trade.
     
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    Thank you for clarifying.
    Do you have any examples of this happening now or previously?
     
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    I feel like I've known of people doing this where it worked out well, but I can't recall properly atm. I'm all for supporting this, aslong as it's only about the same markets. For example if the business I'm working for is selling 07GP and I'd like to sell some personal CS skins, I feel like I should still be able to. I feel like this wasn't clarified.

    Or I'm retarded. Or both.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Oct 16, 2024 at 5:33 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    I've linked one in a deleted post below this, simply because I think it looks bad if mods are posting old reports publicly on people.

    This would simply mean they can't advertise in the same market on Sythe, what they do off-site is not our issue.
     
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  25. Unread #13 - Nov 3, 2024 at 5:31 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    I support this. Good suggestion that is needed.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Dec 27, 2024 at 8:55 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    The fact that everyone wants this changed but allows bots to bump posts is beyond me.
     
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    I'd say let employees have their own threads in any market but make the punishment more severe for the user and the employer, if they are caught abusing the multiple thread rule. I don't think its fair to restrict employees from having their own personal threads and honestly not allowing them to bump their own threads during work hours kind of sucks too.

    If I misunderstood the issue then lmk but thats my take on it.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Dec 28, 2024 at 1:02 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    In IRL cases, a bunch of mechanisms are used to tackle market manipulation situations, with one of the most notable being shifting the burden of proof

    I.e. in EU competition law companies can be required to prove that certain pricing agreements don’t have anti-competitive effects if there’s evidence suggesting potential cartel behavior

    Maybe this can serve as inspiration?
     
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    If someone works for me and during their spare time they are a graphics designer, they wouldn't be allowed to advertise on here?


    I think users should have the right to post threads in the market sections, regardless who they work for.


    Polls like this should be only voted by providers here on Sythe and their employees, not some randoms that don't sell products on here and only surf the report a scammer section day & night.
     
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    The poll only indication of the community opinion. As alot of people don't reply to thread,
    it will have very little say on the final decision it's just indicator
     
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    I don't think this would positively effect the market. It would only lead to the small guys working for bigger servers only. There are currently 50+ threads being bumped daily in RS service and gp sections. It's incredibly difficult for small guys to get customers that way.

    I don't see this currently being an issue either. If there's a clear case of abuse we could always lable it as market manipulation.
     
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  39. Unread #20 - Jan 14, 2025 at 5:10 PM
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    Disallowing the employees of business's advertised on Sythe to have there own thread.

    I support this change. It should be up to the employer to advertise their websites, products and services. We don't see people advertising on personal accounts when it comes to FaceBook, LinkedIn and Google Ads - I think the concept is the same.

    Advertisements should come from the business/employer account regardless of if it's automated or manual.
     
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