Mexico has NO RIGHT to....

To be honest australias free trade agreement with america is screwing australia badly.

 

They are getting desperate. In soon time, the American Government will be implementing a $5.50 fee for Canadians (and Mexicans perhaps) to enter their country.

 

Id rather make a deal with china but aussie priministers turned it down twice to try strengthen the one we have with america, which screws us, its a joke.
Anyway as stated earlier, borders are meaningless, people should be free to live wherever they choose so long as they are not a disruption, illegal immigrants actually help your economy.

 

In that case, I ask:


What aspect of their existence in the United States without proper documentation, which they need present in order to be in, is legal?

 

They are people too. What if you were Mexican and someone talked bullshit about you like you are now. You are a ignorant white fat little boy. You should respect people from all countries and races. They had no choice, and they are just looking for a better life. By the way, can you name any american that cleans, landscapes, pumps sewers/septic tanks, fixes cars, and other similar jobs? Nope, because it's too hard, and even if they do, it is like 40x more expensive. Give these people a break. And learn something about other countries you knucklehead. You do know that at one point your ancestors were immigrants, unless you are native american. This also leads me to questioning, did Native Americans actually do anything to kick immigrants (you and your ancestors) out? Not much, but now all you moved in and are kicking other people out. Hmm, can you say, unfair? Also, it seems to me your parents that taught you this hatred against Mexican people. All I can say is, it made you dumb minded and you need to free yourself from the hate your parents taught you.

^ Sums the OP's post up very well.

 

I take umbrage with this argument. I have the utmost respect for all races of people. While I would not take the extreme views OP is suggesting, I would agree that illegal immigrants, are, well, just that: illegal. I would further argue that those who are entering any country illegally are not showing respect towards that country. Also, no one is complaining about immigrants in general. You are correct: All Americans are immigrants, and we should respect everyone who comes to this country looking for opportunity. But they need to do it in the legal manner.

 

This post is extremely wrong in the fact that it addresses legal immigrants. Yes, not only is the entirety of my family working class immigrants from Vietnam, they are all doing well for themselves as well. When my house was remodeled, yes - immigrant workers and construction groups are many times cheaper. They are honest hard working people who I have the utmost respect for.

However, the fact being is that there are 'illegal' immigrants. Their stories could be equally dreadful or miserable, but the fact is as I mentioned in my earlier paragraph; there are Mexican and other immigrants who came into the U.S. legally and did well for themselves. These illegal immigrants are in fact a burden, not because they are essentially bad people, but they are unable to move up in the social ladder.

Without documentation, they are forced into under-the-table jobs - which not only under pays them, but intrudes into the market for honest [Think the immigrant constructors I mentioned] workers.

OP could have also better stated his point. I also believe that the border patrol should have the authority to fire when fired upon or under threat by -any- threat, be it Mexican, American, or otherwise. The fact that a border patrol officer was [I recall this on the news years ago] pressed with a potential prison charge for firing upon an illegal immigrant who opened fire first... is just depressing. An American citizen would receive even less quarter, and we all know damn well that that American citizen would have no case in court.

While it is a delicate issue, my stance is a very simple one. If you want to come into this country, I don't care who you are, feel free to apply for citizenship. The moment you break the law, however, you are subject to punishment. Crossing the border illegally is in-fact breaking our laws - why is this not only unpunished, but encouraged, is beyond me.

 

i think its a big biased statement
more or less, ALL People who illegally have come into america..i dont care if your from canada or the uk..hell even mexico. come here legally. your fine by me. quit hopping the system..

 

It takes 12-22 years.
No thanks.

 

Think about it like college. You go to school for a brighter future. You go through the immigration process for a brighter future. The idea is quite the same.

 

If that brighter future is for your children and they are in their 30's when you arrive?
Face it, legal immigration is not an option for some people and neither is starving to death being a sex slave or being murdered.
A college education doesnt take 22 years by the way.

 

Id welcome you and anyone else with open arms.

 

AGREED. Also Agree with the poster above and Sythe. 12-22 Years just to be a citizen, no wonder immigrants have their children in the U.S because the wait time is BS.

If I was able to make my own country I wouldn't require some paper telling people if they could cross an imaginary line into my country. I'd welcome them and treat them as if they were my brother or sister.

 

What is wrong with you guys?

I'm a first generation immigrant from Asia, and I see nothing wrong with what the original poster is talking about. He is not advocating for shooting all mexicans, he is simply talking about DEPORTING the ones that are here illegally.

Given, his solvency (shooting mexicans at the border) is a bit harsh, but it is the general consensus in the United States that something has to be changed.

There are immigration laws for a reason, so only the cream of the crop can come to the United States and contribute to society. If there were no laws, everyone from a third world country would simply flock to the United States, and it would be chaotic.

Once again people seem to forget that while Mexicans take the jobs that Americans don't want, they don't pay taxes, but still get the same benefits. Simply because Mexicans come from a corrupt, poor country does not justify illegally immigrating here. That's why we have laws.

 

They are trying to live their lives. If they nee that little extra boost of money to help them then so be it

 

Finally. Someone with a fucking brain. Is it fair for someone to have to go through all the steps to become a legal citizen when someone can come here illegally and live just as well? No.


As for the "we're all immigrants, how do you think the native americans felt" bullshit, If the illegals (any, not just mexicans) wish to do what we did they are more than welcome to try.


Are we supposed to just lie on our backs and take it? That they come here and make wage under the table so they pay no taxes? They have rights. They should not have the rights of an American citizen if they aren't one. If you tried to sneak into another country illegally, you'd be severely punished. We give them a slap on the wrist and send them back so they can repeat the process over again. More harsh punishments need to be set into place. Many governments don't even give proper punishment once they are deported back home from here.

All I'm saying is, If they do the right thing I have no problem with immigration what so ever. Its the basis of our country and unification is generally a good thing. If you think the process takes too long, start early. If you want a better life for your children, start before you have children. If they aren't coming to the US properly then they should be properly punished.

 

So you would've liked to have been deported if the US found out you came here illegally? (When you did)

 

All im saying is, if it was your family being sold as sex slaves and shot in the streets you would have a completely different point of view.
I have 2 friends from a place called el salvador, ricardo and hosei, they saw their parents killed in the street, an uncle smuggled them into australia and they worked with me at a security firm, they work hard and have great business ethics, if i had to lose my job to any one i would like for it to be one of those guys.

 

If you should legally be dead, you shouldn't be living.
Period.
Racist scum