Polypore Staking

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Polypore Staking
  1. Unread #21 - Aug 14, 2016 at 7:36 PM
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    It's impossible to have a strategy that you "think" will let you clean anyone. You cannot be sure of anything in a 50/50 odds stake, the outcome is always random and could end up in one person going 20x lose/20x win.
     
  3. Unread #22 - Aug 14, 2016 at 7:38 PM
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    Actually he can still clean someone with 50/50 odds as he said
     
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    I never said that he couldn't clean someone, he said he "thinks" he has a strategy to doing so and in 50/50 odds, there are no "strategies".
     
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    its been done before :p but whatever you say :D
     
  9. Unread #25 - Aug 16, 2016 at 6:08 AM
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    you can easily clean someone with rng on your side, what decimate is saying is there is no way to guarentee to clean someone, someone with 50B bank COULD get cleaned by someone with 10M but the LIKELY outcome is the person with the bigger bank will clean the person with the lower bank if they continue for infinate amount of stakes at anything from a standard amount to varying, because statistically its 50/50 but streaks happen, so if you have the bigger bank so you can "survive" a streak from the other person and just wait till you get your streak to clean them.
    But simply its all 50/50 so it is impossible to guarentee to clean someone everytime without scamming.
     
  11. Unread #26 - Aug 16, 2016 at 4:43 PM
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    I think you're all taking my quote a little too seriously, I meant I think it would let me go toe to toe with anyone and have a good chance not that I am going to stand at duel arena and clean every account on the game haha.
     
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    I know what you mean rofl, i'm the one agreeing while the others aren't
     
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    For those who would like to know, its called Martingale's system and it consists of increasing your bet size when you lose, so it can cover the losses you made in earlier rounds.

    The system kinda works, but then again you're pushing the odds, since you are always aiming to break a losing streak before you run out of cash.

    But say you have 1000M total, and start with a 10M bet, you can take quite a lose streak: 10M / 20M / 40M / 80M / 160M / 320M. The chance to lose all those bets (6x lose streak) is 1,5625% (0.5^6).

    So yea you have a 98.4375% chance to make 10M with this system, but at the same time you're risking ~600M on the 6th bet


    EDIT: ON TOPIC: yes it is still alive. Just start with a few M per bet so you can get the hang of it and notice the simple tricks people use to scam
     
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    Yea, so short term, you will most likely profit because the chance of going on large enough of a losing streak is very small. But if you were to keep staking forever, your expected net profit is still 0 in a perfect world, just the same as if you staked the same amount every duel.
     
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    Ty for the name for it, knew of the system didnt know of the name, but the fact of the matter is they still happen, i once lost 2.8b started on a 4m bet and repeating, the risk of the method waaaaay outweighs the reward, say your doing 10m, 8x win and 8x loss are both the same statistical chance (1 of them usually happens every 7 hours of commision staking[comm staking is about 1-8 mins per stake rather than your normal 1 per 2 mins that staking solo is) so you are looking at a profit of 80m or a loss of 2550m, anyone can weight that up for themselves :D
     
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    The method doesn't work. Period. No method works unless you influence the duel itself.
     
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    Theres never any 100% profitable strategy in staking. It all depends on how much you want to make. If you have 1B and want to make profit through martingale, of course you might, as the chance of losing is so low, but you won't understand how much of a bad idea it is, until you actually do lose everything doing it. So saying that you have profited in the past from it, sure, you may profit another 5 times in the future, but the 1 time you get unlucky and lose, you will lose all your profits+everything else you have. You can't keep winning. Ive seen 15x win streaks, as I have seen 15x loss streaks before.

    Owning a staking clan, I see many people get cleaned via martingale daily, as I see many making good profit with it. You need to know the risks.

    Staking is the same no matter what, if you have 1B, and want to make 1B profit so you have a total of 2B, the fastest way is to just do a 1B stake, 50% chance to win and lose. No matter what you do, or what approach you take - the chance you turn 1B->2B will be the same.

    It is gambling at the end of the day, it can be much faster money than anything else, but you can also lose everything, and that is what you need to understand. There is no method to it, there is nothing more to it than that. If you chose to gamble, you accept the risks, hence it should only be done for fun.
     
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    My mate is very familiar with this kind of staking and from what I can tell, its simply jst polypore with same rules no scams that I've seen.
     
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