Post your gains here!

I understand in your teen/young adult mind it hurts your ego to have someone call out something you're doing as bad, been there. Can tell by that instant defensive hostility when I wasn't even talking to you. Who said anything about junk food/drinking/smoking? Why is this a comparison? "Yeah man, shooting yourself in the foot is wayyyy better than shooting yourself in the face, you should try it out BRO."

I don't watch/read the news. I read studies and hear real life experiences of many people. And hear what health experts have to say. Love to hear what your 35 year old self would say about it, bet it would directly contradict what your current self would.

I wasn't trying to condemn it anyway. Just offering a friendly suggestion in case someone didn't know the risks, they may want to look deeper. Many people come from many backgrounds. Tons of people drink soda to replace water and don't know it's killing them. That's where I would offer a tidbit of info and if they want to continue, power to them. So if I help someone see things in a way that makes them want to do something different with a simple suggestion, then that's the goal.

 

In most cases the people who use steroids have researched them for months and know exactly what they do and how they work. If you have done as much research as you are claiming then you would know that a simple test e cycle is a very mild one and won't have any negative side affects long term. People who don't know the risks of steroids shouldn't be using them in the first place so if they fuck themselves up for not researching it then that is their problem to deal with. I was comparing it because you came in here telling how bad they are, with proper research you would know that they aren't as bad as you think and yes there are dangerous steroids but test e which I was specifically talking about is safe and much healthier than smoking/drinking/junk food.

Have you ever read about the positive effects from a test cycle? Also with a proper pct your body will return to normal after the cycle. It doesn't hurt my ego, it just kills me whenever you post something fitness related and you're arguing with people who have years of experience in that field, you are the one with the ego and think you know it all, I have the balls to admit that I don't know everything, hence that is why I spend so much time researching everything.

 

Uhhhh no. Most people using roids are listening to their gym bros like you who tell them, "Bro trust me it's totally fine bro, and you get mad gainz BRO." "Ok bro, thanks for the solid advice BRO."

"Came in here saying how bad they are"

Uhh wut? I said like with all things they have consequences. I'm never said you'll drop dead the minute you start.

Being better than other drugs and alcohol doesn't making them good, if that's even the case in reality.

Everyone has heard the positive effects of roids. That's what made me make the simple suggestion that someone look into the potential risks. I never claimed to be an expert because I am not. But I have spoken with many experts and have been in the gym many years and do have a basis to simply suggest someone look into something further before making potentially life changing choices they can't unmake.

 

You guys are both correct.
Andy, yes. I have done EXTENSIVE research, and there are FOR SURE health risks.
However; steriods didnt become illegal until the late 1990's. Shit Dbol was legal until like 2002.
The reason they became illegal was primarily due to their unfair advantage in sports. Obviously health risks also were a defining factor in this decision.

Most of the risks stem from people using these compounds EXTREMELY incorrect and although there is a standard for the way you should do these, its a grey area.

I am being mentored from good friends of mine that have been doing steriods for 35+ years. One of these particular friends of mine owns several gyms and is in amazing shape, he is nearly 60 years old and VERY knowledgeable on the industry and the proper way to utilize these compounds.

But you are right, they should be used with CAUTION and the people that are wanting to use AAS need to do TONS of research and should wait until they have many years of experience lifting w/o the help of AAS.

 

That's great, I'm so glad you have someone with a lot of experience to guide you. I don't doubt that having someone like that helps to mitigate the negative effects. I've always loved to have a person like that to help me whenever possible in all things I do in life.

 

Mentors in EVERYTHING are very important. Thats an admirable trait of you man, it took me awhile in life to learm to accept the fact tha some people know better and I should swallow my pride and listen haha.

Mentorship in life in sooo valuable.

 

Yeah it's one of those life hacks. Find people who spent the majority of their lives on something and get them to share the best of that with you and you get crazy benefits. When learning to code, a few small tips from someone who has been coding for 20 years put me lightyears ahead.

Btw, you're one of the few cool people I've seen on here. Hope to see ya stick around and involved.

 

I don't see many progress photos.

 

Then post yours, lets see those gainz.

Mine will be posted in a year probably.

 

Anyone want to share what supplements they take?

 

Looking good man, how much do you weigh?