User-Staff Committee

I will 2nd this. Do not even think about adding my msn if harassment is the goal, I will block anybody who does without hesitation. I hope it is not though.

Also could you shed any light on this "Template" used for reporting scamming?

 

Nominee's Name: .Karl
http://sythe.org/member.php?u=260250

Why do you think this person will make a good U.S.C member:

He's very knowledgable with computers, i've personally seen his talent with Windows. (Knowledgable doesn't mean the skill of a geek squad elite) As in, if you need help with something small such as how to fix ranks being blurry on your computer

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=921680

Ranks not showing up AT ALL!?!?

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=921534

Making a foolish RS-related mistake?

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=921239

it's not unlikely .Karl will be one of the first to help you.

Does .Karl contribute? Of course; i'm not going to go hunting down every example, but this is a fairly popular one I found to be very reasonable.

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=921591

and an example of him voicing his opinion...

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=919476



Or perhaps you're a fan of goofing off in the spam forum? .Karl knows how to have fun, while staying away from all the corruption.

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=921594 (lol)
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=917941 Gratz Karl


That is why I believe .Karl would be a good member. I've spoke with him prior to nomination, and he said that he'd be happy to join; however he's afraid that not enough members will support him. I'm not sure how popular he is, but this shouldn't be a popularity contest. I believe Karl is a hard working, honest person and will put forth his best effort in the USC.

 

Quite simply, he's a vader

I agree that they should be represented as equally as everyone else, yet I do not think they belong on the Committee, because they simply aren't active enough to do work on it.

 

There's already a template for scam reports.
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=769092

I also would like to know how is USC's template going to be different from Skele's.

 

We will do whatever we can to help everyone. I see no reason why it would be suspected that we would treat those users' ideas and opinions any differently?

And there's no proclaiming ourselves as the voice of the community, we are establishing a committee that will be chosen by the community, there's a difference. If we were trying to usurp power, I'd imagine your point would be spot on. We are, however, not trying to take any power whatsoever. We're just establishing a group of people that are willing to help and further the community.

I would also like to note, however, that those members of the market are not generally part of the community. They're part of the website, sure, they're users, yes, but most of them don't contribute anything at all to the community. There's the user base, and then there's the community base. The community base would consist of members who remain after they've purchased their gold, or sold their account, simply to maintain conversation and such.

Without those members that remain super active and contribute to the community on repeated occasions, Sythe would have died long ago. The market is just not important enough to maintain this reputation. Most of the users are indeed leechers that just come for a quick buy/sell/trade, but the sites popularity was not achieved by this, it was wrought through those who maintained conversations after they finished their business.

Nor should you be denied the right to enjoy the site just like the rest of us. However, if we can do anything to make the work load lighter so more can be done in a quicker time and you can sit back and enjoy the site even longer, why not support us?

We're establishing a small group of people that will do whatever they can to make it easier on you and in doing so, we help the members by helping get more done. We don't need to be 'involved' in a matter, or even bug you to make this happen.

I resent that comment. Please do not paint us in such a negative light as to think our intention is to cause harm. Both SuF and Myself have contributed quite a bit to this community, and assuming we're just going to start spamming your MSN is insulting.

As for the template, we just started, and our goal is not on scam reports at the moment. However, if we find a way to make reports more effective and easier to read/answer, then we will write it up and when users ask us to help them file a scam report, then we will do so.

I don't disagree that those members should not be on the committee, however, we will not deny someone that is voted in through the normal process. Simply put, if they deserve it, then they'll get it through the community's voice.

Skele's is nice, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. Our 'template' won't be something we try and pass onto other users, just something we think is effective that is used with users to help better their scam reports/ suggestions/ disputes/ pardons/ etcetcetc.

 

Nominee's Name: Blade Bro4

Why do you think this person will make a good U.S.C member:

He's very knowledgable with computers, i've personally seen his talent with GIMP. (Knowledgable doesn't mean the skill of a geek squad elite) As in, if you need help with something small such as how to make ranks, Signatures, Avatars, Shop Graphics and even on MSN he is a nice guy to talk to.


Example: http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=884559

 

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I'm getting tired of the staff's responses to this thread and the negative feelings being thrown at this idea. You tell us not to forget the small guys, the new guys, the ones who don't want to speak up, the ones who are just here a little, the ones who aren't the big "Gurus" and "Grandmasters". Why don't you look at yourselves, at your own group, the staff of this site. The staff that says "olol drama" when a serious community issue comes up. The staff that mocks the users when see a problem. The staff that never seems to be able to change anything. The staff that doesn't want to listen to the users. The staff that bans newbies for admitting past mistakes. The staff that lets "one user that has 1500+ post count and uses Sythe.org 10 hours a day" whose scammed be an admin. The staff who gets a rule changed after some big shot got banned for it. The staff that due to "recent bans of site mainstays... created a special pardon request forum".

We formed the committee to help every user on the site whether it be a grandmaster or a leecher, an old staff member banned years ago, or a newbie banned yesterday, a guru with an old idea, or some "users who just come to use the Markets occasionally" with a new one. The people on the committee are selected by the community not to represent them, but rather to assist them. Voting isn't about whose ideas the user likes the most, or what the person will fight for. Its about who will be able to help the community the most through the committee and who will succeed, who is dedicated to the community and its well being.

Our intentions are pure, without greed, without deceit. We honestly want to assist the community, in every way possible, so that things happen, things change, wrongs are righted, and so that everyone turns out happy. I could use your words against you, attack you ruthlessly, and annoy you to no end, all while I am gathering community support behind me. If you want to keep being aggressive, go right ahead. If you want to start a war, be my guest. I will, personally, fight back, with everything I have. I am not afraid of you and you will not win. Work with us or stay out of our way, your choice.

 

(sigh).

You sound like a cult leader. Honestly, you're not promoting a healthy start to this organization. Staff aren't attacking the USG- is it wrong to question and voice our options?

I think everyone can agree you're not helping. Work with us or stay out of your way? Great team attitude. :s

 

I agree. Threatening the staff that represents the community is not the best image you want to set out for a committee that's supposed to "represent" the entire community.

 

While the approach may seem unorthodox, he's not entirely incorrect. The staff's opinions are certainly appreciated, but think of the level of influence staff members have over non-staff members. Your opinions must be voiced in a very careful manner, so as to not upset others' opinions as well.

It's simple, support the U.S.C. until we mess up? What's wrong with giving us the chance to show you exactly what we're going to be doing, and how effective it will be? Instead of trying to discredit us by saying "Don't spam me on MSN" or "Don't do this" or "Don't do that" or "Be careful" you should be promoting healthy attitudes and encouraging us to be involved and active.

Telling us to "Tread carefully" is exactly the opposite of what Sythe encouraged. He wants users to be more involved, he wants them to contribute. Now, sure, if we start messing up, you have the right to put us in our place, however, as of right now, all you're doing is harming a good cause.

 

My post was just a simple warning. Ask all the 100+ banned people who have talked to me on msn about what they think of me. I am helpful and polite to all of them unless they flame me to a ridiculous point. (10/100 talked to me on msn roughly)

I'm not going to instantly shoot this committee down by any means.

I suggest you change your attitude if you want this to get anywhere. I'm willing to listen as long as you guys are respectful, I'll be 110% respectful also.

And trust me, this community will not stand behind you if all you want to do is fight us continuously.

 

We're giving you a chance. The thread isn't locked.

I see no problem telling an organization to trend carefully or giving them advice. If you're truly going to be representing a significant part of the user base, I hope you're being careful.

 

Well, your warning is heard, but you haven't much to worry about .

Your respect is appreciated, and we are trying our hardest to be as respectful as possible. We anticipated certain staff members being against this, so it's not at all surprising. He's simply saying that we planned for it to not be supported, and don't need the support, but would much rather have it as it would make our intentions so much easier.

I can tell you from personal experience that the community prefers to fight the staff. I garnered much support in doing so in my olden days. However, we don't wish to fight, he's simply saying that we're prepared to fight for the good of the community if it is going to be forced upon us.

You missed a point, man. I'm not saying you aren't giving us a chance by not instantly shutting us down, I'm saying by staff voicing their direct opinions to us here in the open, readers will be swayed to not support us either. This is just as bad as locking the thread and telling us 'no'.

We are going to be very careful, indeed, but we'll do what needs done for the sake of the users. Moderators enforce the rules and that's just about it. Users are the ones who create threads, generate good content, and give the moderators a reason to be here. If you think about it carefully, you'll realize that their support is more valuable to us than anything, and the staff not supporting us would persuade them to go against us. Thereby, we would be finished.

 

Due to the overwhelming response in nominations, we have decided to go ahead and start the poll with 19 nominees.

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=922285

Please cast your votes! (Any nominations made after this post will be applied to the next round of voting.)

 

It's a union.

First ever Sythe hostile takeover, nice.

 

It is nice to know that you are willing to at least give us a chance to put forth our best foot. While the probability that we will not accomplish much is very high, I believe that with assistance and support from the staff, we could be more effective.

Don't take that to mean that we will be bugging the staff for a bunch of stuff, or anything like that, but rather that being on the same level of understanding would be so much more beneficial than fighting and scheming.

Your interpretations are not accurate, but duly noted.

 

Why do you have such a negative approach towards the USC? It's only just been started up. How about waiting and seeing how they go before criticising it.

(Also, if you do have issues in it after a while, try suggesting how they can improve it, not just flaming about the issues.)

 

I knew this would occur. It sucks that such has been so quickly rejected without much of a chance to show exactly what our intentions are, and it's kind of depressing that such controversy has been caused over such a simple thing.

Oh well, thanks Ryan . I've posted in the voting thread telling those that read there .

 

I'm hoping that the USC changes things around here for the better, and doesn't cause any drama. You have my support.