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08-03-2009, 10:42 PM
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Is Obama Really eligible to be President?
Before Obama had been elected president questions rose about his birth certificate. Obama says he was born in Hawaii, but he hasn't released the certificate proving so. The only thing he has released is the "Certificate of Live Birth for the State of Hawaii". This document just summarizes his birth. This may sound good, but he only needs one parent to vouch for this and even a U.S. citizen born outside of the U.S. can get this.
This is totally different then the McCain campaign... When people rose questions about his birth he immediately released his birth certificate so why can't Obama do the same?
Post your opinions.
Sources/If you would like to read up on it some more:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105225
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/d...03/243134.html
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/oba...23/133199.html
Also, I will be updating this thread. I'm currently heading out the door, for a little bit so I was in a rush writing this.
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08-03-2009, 10:49 PM
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Re: Is Obama Really Legible to be President?
Who the fuck cares, it's a stupid rule anyways. It's a stupid conspiracy, with a stupid cause.
Btw, it's "eligible" not "legible".
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08-03-2009, 11:41 PM
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Re: Is Obama Really Legible to be President?
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Who the fuck cares, it's a stupid rule anyways. It's a stupid conspiracy, with a stupid cause.
Btw, it's "eligible" not "legible".
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I was in a rush when I was typing this up... Took a whole 30 seconds.
Anyway, I care, U.S. is already fucked up enough and we don't need another horrible president to take us down the wrong path... I already disagree with enough of his policys.
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08-03-2009, 11:45 PM
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Re: Is Obama Really Legible to be President?
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Anyway, I care, U.S. is already fucked up enough and we don't need another horrible president.
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So the quality of a president is determined by their place of birth?
Legality does not equate to morality, and I don't see why it matters where someone was born as long as they're intellectually and ethically qualified.
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08-04-2009, 12:00 AM
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Re: Is Obama Really Legible to be President?
Honestly, i believe he is what the bible says he says in Revelation. He's aiming at taking over united nations. He's not what everyone believes he is. I think hes a sociapath to be honest. He's shown all the symptoms. ALL school shooters we have had in history have had the personality of a sociapath.
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08-04-2009, 12:04 AM
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Honestly, i believe he is what the bible says he says in Revelation. He's aiming at taking over united nations. He's not what everyone believes he is. I think hes a sociapath to be honest. He's shown all the symptoms. ALL school shooters we have had in history have had the personality of a sociapath.
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Wow, and you make a lot of sense.
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Anyway, I care, U.S. is already fucked up enough and we don't need another horrible president.
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He's so fucking horrible that you're trying to take him down from your own confusion of where he was born? Give me a fucking break.
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08-04-2009, 12:08 AM
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Honestly, i believe he is what the bible says he says in Revelation. He's aiming at taking over united nations. He's not what everyone believes he is. I think hes a sociapath to be honest. He's shown all the symptoms. ALL school shooters we have had in history have had the personality of a sociapath.
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God isn't real so lets just throw that out of the window.
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Re: Is Obama Really Legible to be President?
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Honestly, i believe he is what the bible says he says in Revelation. He's aiming at taking over united nations. He's not what everyone believes he is. I think hes a sociapath to be honest. He's shown all the symptoms. ALL school shooters we have had in history have had the personality of a sociapath.
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Nice Post,you've made a good job of maing no sence.
In other words,it doesn't really matter when or where he was born,only what he;s doing for our counrty,i dont care if he was born irac,as long as he's here to help the US as a government and help us reshape the world.
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08-04-2009, 02:54 AM
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I live in Canada but all I ever hear about him is good things...Tbh I wouldn't mind if he was our president 
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08-04-2009, 07:02 AM
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So the quality of a president is determined by their place of birth?
Legality does not equate to morality, and I don't see why it matters where someone was born as long as they're intellectually and ethically qualified.
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Being born in the U.S. is just one of the requirements to be the president, if he wasn't born here, he technically can't be the president. This isn't the only thing though, if he is willing to lie about being born in Hawaii (if he is)then what else could he be lieing about?
They are already questions about the funds that he has raised etc. that he will not answer.
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Honestly, i believe he is what the bible says he says in Revelation. He's aiming at taking over united nations. He's not what everyone believes he is. I think hes a sociapath to be honest. He's shown all the symptoms. ALL school shooters we have had in history have had the personality of a sociapath.
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I got the first part of this, I even agreed, but then you went a little off topic. From him being a sociopath to school shootings?..
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God isn't real so lets just throw that out of the window.
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I'd have to disagree with that. Most scientific theories for creation of our species, big bang for instance, are harder to believe then believing God exists.
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I live in Canada but all I ever hear about him is good things...Tbh I wouldn't mind if he was our president 
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Thats the thing, everyone thinks he is the great guy, but you have to look for the things they don't show on TV. Our television networks rarely broadcast horrible about him even if they do happen.
That is the thing. When people voted for Obama they didn't do any research on him at all. For example, a independent organization went around asking people about the election.(On election day) They asked who they voted for, and what they know about that person.. Many people responded with "Obama", but couldn't give any answers about him.
Here is two small videso of what voters had to say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KO...eature=related
This if you want to skip to results.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQIqrqUNXuM
It shows they did not do their research.
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08-04-2009, 07:12 AM
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Being born in the U.S. is just one of the requirements to be the president, if he wasn't born here, he technically can't be the president. This isn't the only thing though, if he is willing to lie about being born in Hawaii (if he is)then what else could he be lieing about?
They are already questions about the funds that he has raised etc. that he will not answer.
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Every president is dishonest. JFK had extramarital affairs, showing that he was dishonest to the person with whom he was supposed to be most honest, and he is still one of the most revered presidents.
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I'd have to disagree with that. Most scientific theories for creation of our species, big bang for instance, are harder to believe then believing God exists.
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How so? The Big Bang has been tried and tested using the Doppler Effect, etc.
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Thats the thing, everyone thinks he is the great guy, but you have to look for the things they don't show on TV. Our television networks rarely broadcast horrible about him even if they do happen.
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Fox would.
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That is the thing. When people voted for Obama they didn't do any research on him at all. For example, a independent organization went around asking people about the election.(On election day) They asked who they voted for, and what they know about that person.. Many people responded with "Obama", but couldn't give any answers about him.
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Color matters. It shows foreign nations that America is progressive and might silence some affirmative action activists for the time being.
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08-04-2009, 07:23 PM
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Re: Is Obama Really Legible to be President?
He's american... its just all conspiracies, do you really think he would of made it into presidency if he wasn't? don't be stupid lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZRsZ3FP3BM
Watch that video, the wise words of sxephil talk briefly on the subject 
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It's obviously a rickroll. ><
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You only know that because you clicked it!  (dw i did to  )
On topic: Wether he was born in america or not, (he was though) aslong as his principals and policies are in the right place, and he's doing the best for the country, then why does it matter?
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08-05-2009, 12:36 AM
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You only know that because you clicked it!  (dw i did to  )
On topic: Wether he was born in america or not, (he was though) aslong as his principals and policies are in the right place, and he's doing the best for the country, then why does it matter?
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I don't click links without right clicking properties first. Prevents rickrolling, shocksites, and referrals that I don't want.
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08-05-2009, 12:53 AM
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Meh, this is just such a stupid little issue; I can't believe what a big deal its been made into.
Imo it is just distracting us from the real issues.
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08-05-2009, 02:44 AM
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Every president is dishonest. JFK had extramarital affairs, showing that he was dishonest to the person with whom he was supposed to be most honest, and he is still one of the most revered presidents.
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Yes, many presidents may have been dishonest, but thats how some governments are. Whether we like it or not there is still a top-secret clearance. Governments have there missions which the general public does not have access to.
Even though they aren't always honest, they don't lie over things like the bills they have passed, who has given them money, and so on.
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How so? The Big Bang has been tried and tested using the Doppler Effect, etc.
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The Big Bang has been tested, yes, but science disproves it as well. One of the scientific laws are "Energy can not be created or destroyed".
God is supernatural so he has always been there.(At least in my opinion)
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Fox would.
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Yes, Fox may air, but this is just one new station. You still have CNN, ABC, NBC, and more. This is 1 verse 3+ which means more views for the liberal stations.
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Color matters. It shows foreign nations that America is progressive and might silence some affirmative action activists for the time being.
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I would have to agree color does matter. That is one of the reasons I think Obama became president. Everyone was hyped up about having a black president.
If Obama was impeached, I would expect a civil war, or at least many riots to break out over "racism"
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On topic: Wether he was born in america or not, (he was though) aslong as his principals and policies are in the right place, and he's doing the best for the country, then why does it matter?
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Doing the best for our country? Sorry, but I'd have to disagree. He is leading America straight down to communisim. First, its the health care.. Abortion and everything has to be in the insurance even if it is against the views of the owner.(Just a example)
Also, government wants to tie our bank accounts to them.(So if everyone is a delinquent/fraud/etc. on their bills government can remove funds.) This gives them more access to our lives and it just continues on from there.
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Meh, this is just such a stupid little issue; I can't believe what a big deal its been made into.
Imo it is just distracting us from the real issues.
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Almost all big issues start with just a little issue.
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08-05-2009, 03:00 AM
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Re: Is Obama Really Legible to be President?
If he had a birth certificate, don't you think he would have shown it by now to shut up all those "silly conspiracy theorists".
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08-05-2009, 03:05 AM
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If he had a birth certificate, don't you think he would have shown it by now to shut up all those "silly conspiracy theorists".
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Obama himself said "I do not plan on showing any certificates showing I was born in or outside the United States."
This shows that
A. He wasn't born here.
B. He is hiding something.
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08-05-2009, 03:06 AM
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Re: Is Obama Really Legible to be President?
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So the quality of a president is determined by their place of birth?
Legality does not equate to morality, and I don't see why it matters where someone was born as long as they're intellectually and ethically qualified.
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I think it does, Because if you have not noticed obama has not done the greatest job so far and also broke so many lies its not funny.
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08-05-2009, 03:11 AM
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Re: Is Obama Really Legible to be President?
I hope he gets impeached.
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