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01-02-2012, 02:20 AM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
Socialism is in fact failing, as its objetive is to make an equal sociality (In summary) Why it fails? Because society would be a total mess up if it didnt fail. The main goal, as said before, of Socialism is to make an equal social class, without lower and higher class, just an extensive middle class. Its impossible to achieve this, as there will always be those who have control over the others. For example at a factory, Capitalists have control on the workers. And thats how it has to work. There will never be a society in which a person doesnt control someone.
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01-09-2012, 01:47 AM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
Sythe, just curious but what are you opinions of the American government as it regards to many of its new socialistic policies?
Personally, I believe that capitalism is the way to go. Socialistic and communistic socieites have proven they cannot work.
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01-18-2012, 04:44 PM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
Wow. This forum is full of idiots.
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01-27-2012, 07:10 PM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
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tl;dr but tbh Canada the socialist little brother of the states is doing a lot fucking better than that shithole to the south.
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The United States has military stationed in most of the world's countries, fights a "war" against certain species of foliage, suffers cronyism on a massive scale, and is crippled by thousands of other economic hinderances. Despite this, it retains a GDP almost $10,000 above Canada.
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Wow. This forum is full of idiots.
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01-28-2012, 01:39 PM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
due to people with bad manners
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02-04-2012, 07:45 PM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
I think because our society doesn't pay attention to the others, therefore nobody helps anybody
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02-04-2012, 09:01 PM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
It could work fairly well but theres only one thing in the way.
___--- Corruption ---___
Fucks everyone over, not to mention reps. in the USA are fucken idiots who have never worked in thier life out of goverment.
Obama never had a working man's job. Never went through labor which is why he spends so much money doesnt know the value of it. We need a democratic republican. Someone who deals with are social issues and can actully manage money, and i think we might have a fighting chance at acheiving something close to the goal.
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02-10-2012, 01:49 PM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
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It could work fairly well but theres only one thing in the way.
___--- Corruption ---___
Fucks everyone over, not to mention reps. in the USA are fucken idiots who have never worked in thier life out of goverment.
Obama never had a working man's job. Never went through labor which is why he spends so much money doesnt know the value of it. We need a democratic republican. Someone who deals with are social issues and can actully manage money, and i think we might have a fighting chance at acheiving something close to the goal.
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I think you're missing the point here. A democratic society will (generally) carry with it a government to control the wealth and monopolise many sectors of society. With the proposed libertarianism, there would be no such control by one governing body; instead every man would be able to strike agreement with another, so long as both parties consent. What we need in all western societies is less of the wealth controlled by the government and more controlled by the individual. Obviously this only works in theory, as in the real world there always will exist evil, where one man believes they have more authority or control over another, and hence the proposed "individual freedom" is essentially overridden by these evil men.
As Sythe has mentioned many times, it is not 'evil' to want to have money. It is evil to hold a man to gunpoint and demand him to pay taxes and monopolise an outlook which a man could otherwise make a business of, purely to enslave man.
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02-10-2012, 11:50 PM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
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It could work fairly well but theres only one thing in the way.
___--- Corruption ---___
Fucks everyone over, not to mention reps. in the USA are fucken idiots who have never worked in thier life out of goverment.
Obama never had a working man's job. Never went through labor which is why he spends so much money doesnt know the value of it. We need a democratic republican. Someone who deals with are social issues and can actully manage money, and i think we might have a fighting chance at acheiving something close to the goal.
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How can a single person efficiently govern millions?
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02-22-2012, 12:30 AM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
I love capitalism!
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03-17-2012, 03:17 PM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
Its all about money and money, people don't have time for their family and there's well known "rat-race" , everything will fall apart sooner or later.
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04-16-2012, 12:39 AM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
It's because of liberals taking over and wanting to "change" everything to make everyone "equal" but in turn are just sucking up to others to make themselves not look bad, in turn running our Country to shit
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05-05-2012, 10:43 AM
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On December 23, 1913 the 16th Amendment to the Constitution was made, turning the current burden you speak of here unto the citizens of the United States of America. With some diligence you may discover how easy this bill was to pass when most of the state reps. and congressmen were traveling by land and sea to be with their families on December 24th 1913. Prior to that America had a very similar system of trade and commerce that you are relating to in this thread. The controls within the public and private sector were still being governed with justifiable prudence within the hierarchy of the courts. A few decades before that the Socialist Labor Party advocated a graduated income tax in 1887. The Populist Party "demanded a graduated income tax" in its 1892 platform. The Democratic Party, led by William Jennings Bryan, advocated the income tax law passed in 1894, and proposed an income tax in its 1908 platform. This little tidbit is of interest because these parties associations embrace a communist philosophy, especially at that time when being a communist was not considered as bad as it is today. At that point in history we seemed to have put all of our financial eggs into one socialistic basket. Today that basket is now carried around by an elite few, who are not socialists, but have taken advantage of a situation that socialistic posturing and a few naive thoughts have caused. Take a stand to repeal the 16th amendment. Free yourself from a flawed tax and financial system. Fight to remove youself and the future of your DNA from the consistently sugarcoated tyranny and slavery we drone though in our lives acknowledging in jest, and then doing nothing about...
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05-11-2012, 06:05 AM
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Re: Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed
hi,sythe
i am sorry if i wrote at wrong place. I just tried to contact u because i want to put ads on your forum. I have sent a msg to u. Wish to hear from u soon.
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