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Old 06-12-2009, 12:31 AM
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Default The anti-macro system explained...

RSbot is the target for this. They have gotten too bad and are being targeted just like rsdemon was and will be hit by this the most.

How are they detecting rsbot? simple. Rsbot is a BCEL bot, it edits the actual code of the game client therefore jagex can easily use reflection to see that the code has been changed. Rsbot injects data into the rsbot client with different Id's for various items and objects. To put it in simpler terms, rsbot hacks the client side info of runescape and this is higly detectable. Does this mean its the end of botting, no there is other bots. I would recommend anyone who doesnt want to get banned stop using rsbot now!!!! If your looking for a alternative to rsbot then i recommend ibot/nexus. iBot/neXus uses color&reflection, reflection reads the data and cannot befound because of the java security class we are higher in the stack we can reflect down to runscape but runescape cannot look up! Alot of rsbot users were banned and you could be to. Its only a matter of time before you get caught using rsbot. Make the right decision and switch over asap.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:42 AM
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Seconded. Until RSBot finds a work around, I'd stay away from it.
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Default Re: The anti-macro system explained...

Seems like most of that is speculation on how it works. It's also almost all about RSBot and not about the actual macro detection of runescape.
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Old 06-12-2009, 01:14 AM
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Default Re: The anti-macro system explained...

Actually, Ibot/Nexus uses BCEL too, they just lie about it. If you search their folders you can find the .jars used by BCEL (this came from Nader, the main dev for Scionbot)
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:19 AM
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Actually, Ibot/Nexus uses BCEL too, they just lie about it. If you search their folders you can find the .jars used by BCEL (this came from Nader, the main dev for Scionbot)
I don't think so... also, what would the purpose of that be (Not using BCEL, but lying about using reflection)?

At the moment, Jagex does not detect BCEL bots, or else EVERYBODY who used a BCEL bot (this means rsbot, kbot, xbot, scarscape etc.) would be banned in a few days, as happens with people who use deobs.
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Even tho they are banning much of the idiotic people that overuses bots. They can't bant them all and detect everything.

I just suggest botting with more precautions, watching it more and never let it running overnight.
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Can't say I agree with you shafig. There have been literally hundreds of people reporting bans at NeXus/ibot forums today
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:07 PM
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There's 21 threads here
http://www.rscheata.net/forum/index....ard,477.0.html

I didn't read them all, but there is more than one person reporting a ban on each thread I looked at, maybe on average 5 per thread? Some of those people losing 4 or more accounts, on average, each lost about 2 accounts. I could be wrong, I didn't add it all up, just took a glance - but if you do the math on those figures: 21*5 is over 100, and if the average person lost 2 accounts, that's over 200.

There were double figures of bans reported in this thread too: http://www.rscheata.net/forum/index....c,60150.0.html

Are you saying you think the total is only double-figures of bans? Maybe you could add it up better, I cba, but at a glance, it looks like well over a hundred.

Rscheata are saying that only RSbot is being targetted. Do you think that's true?
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I don't think they are detecting bcel through mirroring/reflection yet.

Bans would have been more widespread.
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RScheata propaganda...
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Default Re: The anti-macro system explained...

You're kind of right. The main reason people are getting banned because they are using RSBot and botting for many many hours at a time. See this thread, I think everyone should read it:
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=633151

(That thread should also not be in Community General.)
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You need to pay a ridiculous amount of money for Nexus, unless you crack it (which is unsupported here at Sythe), so might as well go and use other bots that do not use BCEL, like Scion or SCAR. I'm aware of a couple other bots currently in development as well that'll be released this summer ;D
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THATS RIGHT DIE RSCA!!!!
RSBOT is the best i will use it till i die.
Then, I'm sorry to tell you, you could get banned for even logging in with the RSBot client.
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Default Re: The anti-macro system explained...

Yes rid some people did nexus users did get banned but that's common as
with all bots. People abused the hunter bot and tons of people were getting
99 hunt which forced jagex to implement new macro detection software.
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:44 AM
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Bcel isnt actually always detectable the problem with rsbot is that it just ignores RS when i tries to send signals or somthijg to it because its poorly coded but Kbot uses Bcel but its properly coded so it responds to the server
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You need to pay a ridiculous amount of money for Nexus, unless you crack it (which is unsupported here at Sythe), so might as well go and use other bots that do not use BCEL, like Scion or SCAR. I'm aware of a couple other bots currently in development as well that'll be released this summer ;D
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Also, people we need to think logically. You see the online users on RsBot.org? Jagex mentioned "several thousand" (several: more than 3, less than 7). There are easily 3 times more users than that for rsbot.

They are only banning the greedy noobs that want levels NOW. meaning the 12-24 hour botters.

If you bot for 3-8 hours a day, you are very safe. and if you do it with "sleeping time" you're fine
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:55 AM
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and that's why SCAR is much less detectable, pity that all the good scripters are private.
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