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Old 06-04-2011, 03:56 PM
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  1. No charge backs
  2. No account needed
  3. It is increasing in value quickly
  4. You can exchange it for paypal dollars as you please
How to get started: http://www.weusecoins.com/

You can buy and sell bitcoin here: https://mtgox.com/
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Old 06-04-2011, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: BitCoin -- why you should accept it

Also useful for ordering prostitutes and other questionable or illegal items and services in the Deep Web, so I've recently noticed.
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I dont get how this works, how do we sell to someone else?
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Old 06-04-2011, 04:22 PM
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I dont get how this works, how do we sell to someone else?
You can transfer your bitcoins to anyone you like using the bitcoin client.

If you want to sell bitcoins for dollars or euros, use an exchange site such as mt gox (link in the OP.)

BitCoin FAQ: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/FAQ

Podcast explaining more: http://omegataupodcast.net/2011/03/5...ized-currency/
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Old 06-04-2011, 04:26 PM
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I see, i looked around read and stuff, its a bit of a gamble because the bitcoin prices go up and down so buying bitcoins are slightly risking for some.. but can be profit.

I see why its a good currency for sythe sellers/buyers though.
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Old 06-04-2011, 04:29 PM
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I see, i looked around read and stuff, its a bit of a gamble because the bitcoin prices go up and down so buying bitcoins are slightly risking for some.. but can be profit.

I see why its a good currency for sythe sellers/buyers though.
Well is it more or less risky than paypal chargebacks? Lol.
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Old 06-04-2011, 05:41 PM
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Is there any data on how much the exchange rates have fluctuated over the past few years, just so potential users can understand how volatile a currency investment this creates?
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Old 06-04-2011, 05:49 PM
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Is there any data on how much the exchange rates have fluctuated over the past few years, just so potential users can understand how volatile a currency investment this creates?
It's a very new currency. You can think of it as just having been floated in the last 6 months.

https://mtgox.com/trade/history

Click "All Time" for the total exchange rate history...
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Old 06-04-2011, 06:11 PM
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I was actually considering getting into this, but I'm not sure how sustainable this currency is for 3 reasons:
1. There is nothing actually backing it up, aside from people's desire to use them
2. Seems a lot like a giant pyramid scheme
3. What happens if governments start cracking down on something like this
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Old 06-04-2011, 06:21 PM
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I was actually considering getting into this, but I'm not sure how sustainable this currency is for 3 reasons:
1. There is nothing actually backing it up, aside from people's desire to use them
There's nothing backing any currency anywhere in the world right now. But bitcoin is at least an honest currency -- you can't just print it willynilly.

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Not sure how you get to that conclusion.

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This is unknown, but bit torrent is still around. P2p systems are hard to shut down and harder still to monitor.
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Old 06-04-2011, 06:25 PM
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Interesting concept. Gonna try it out. Always like to be the first one to find out about stuff before it gets popular. Mad indy cred.

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I'm planning on setting up a miner on my system and seeing how well that works out. I'm quite curious. Will report back.
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:09 PM
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Hm this sounds pretty interesting.
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:57 PM
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There's nothing backing any currency anywhere in the world right now. But bitcoin is at least an honest currency -- you can't just print it willynilly.
That's true to a certain extent, but there are still heavy incentives in place behind others,
ie. US military, laws requiring they be accepted at stores

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Not sure how you get to that conclusion.
This isn't really relevant to the long-term feasibility of the currency, but it seems to be riding a huge bubble right now. Additionally, the early entry price that many people got may lead to valuation issues.


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This is unknown, but bit torrent is still around. P2p systems are hard to shut down and harder still to monitor.
Still another variable of concern. If it's illegal, then it will fail to catch on with major businesses and further destabilize it.
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I think Liberty Reserve is a more popular alternative to this, same concept, no chargebacks and low fees. I doubt this will catch on for runescape trades just as LR.
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Looks very interesting. I might give it a try.
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I do not thing it is a scam, but as an avid/relatively experienced investor I would recommend no sythers use this system as a currency.

Looking at the graph, the currency is EXTREMELY VOLATILE and therefore a high risk high return investment that is not what you want out of a currency, it is actually the opposite. Currencies are supposed to barely fluctuate at all.

Source: (http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bcmP...gCzm1g10zm2g25)
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I do not thing it is a scam, but as an avid/relatively experienced investor I would recommend no sythers use this system as a currency.

Looking at the graph, the currency is EXTREMELY VOLATILE and therefore a high risk high return investment that is not what you want out of a currency, it is actually the opposite. Currencies are supposed to barely fluctuate at all.

Source: (http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bcmP...gCzm1g10zm2g25)
Yea, Liberty Reserve would be a better choice for sythe users, a lot of people use LR and is currently the most popular ecurrency.
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:00 AM
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That's true to a certain extent, but there are still heavy incentives in place behind others,
ie. US military, laws requiring they be accepted at stores
Actually there is no such law. Legal tender simply means that its valid money for payment of debts. It doesn't mean that you have to accept it in your shop.


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This isn't really relevant to the long-term feasibility of the currency, but it seems to be riding a huge bubble right now. Additionally, the early entry price that many people got may lead to valuation issues.
Bubbles are for established currencies. A float coming from zero is not a bubble. It's much closer to an upward correction.


Well you guys are apparently quite risk averse. But if you did accept payments in bitcoin, perhaps you would have a couple sitting there. And when they even out at whatever they'll eventually be worth (probably $50-100 per coin) then you'll be more interested.
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I think Liberty Reserve is a more popular alternative to this, same concept, no chargebacks and low fees. I doubt this will catch on for runescape trades just as LR.
LR seems to make a lot of sense for most GP traders


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I do not thing it is a scam, but as an avid/relatively experienced investor I would recommend no sythers use this system as a currency.

Looking at the graph, the currency is EXTREMELY VOLATILE and therefore a high risk high return investment that is not what you want out of a currency, it is actually the opposite. Currencies are supposed to barely fluctuate at all.

Source: (http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bcmP...gCzm1g10zm2g25)
Exactly, one would have to carefully watch the rsgp market AND the bitcoin market.


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Actually there is no such law. Legal tender simply means that its valid money for payment of debts. It doesn't mean that you have to accept it in your shop.
Legal tender laws indicate that dollars must be accepted for all debts, the point holds true.

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Bubbles are for established currencies. A float coming from zero is not a bubble. It's much closer to an upward correction.


Well you guys are apparently quite risk averse. But if you did accept payments in bitcoin, perhaps you would have a couple sitting there. And when they even out at whatever they'll eventually be worth (probably $50-100 per coin) then you'll be more interested.
It is difficult to tell whether or not it will catch on. The point is that people may be overspeculating now.

Another risk that will be faced is whether the bitcoin succeeds and becomes a viable currency, or if it fails overall (perhaps even to a similar, better structured competitor).



This is a very interesting situation that I will definitely be following and hope to be learning from.
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