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Old 06-15-2008, 05:13 PM
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Default Sythe.Org Staff; How does it work?

Staff are often asked about how promotions work and indeed on what basis we choose staff members, so we've composed an informative thread to address issues of this nature.

How are staff members chosen?

Contrary to popular belief, Sythe.org employs Majoritarianism when choosing its staff members and Official Middlemen. Historically, there were Head Moderators - most notoriously the duo of Clashfan and Steph - who had both substantial influence and considerable power over promotions. This position has since been removed, and nowadays, whilst it is generally accepted that Administrators retain a fair deal of influence in regard to who is promoted, our system is very much primus inter pares, where Administrators are simply first among equals. When voting on staff and Official Middleman occurs in the Upper Lounge, all Upper staff have one vote each, irrespective of whether they are an Administrator or Global Moderator. Again, contrary to popular belief, staff are not dictatorially chosen, unless in rare cases, such as that of Ughster, Sythe, as the owner, has personally appointed them.

There's no application or a specific way of joining staff. Your best bet is to remain mature, active, and involved in the community. We'll contact you if you're the right person for the job. Asking for a staff position isn't necessary. Be sure to keep you nose clean both on and off site as well. All staff and potential candidates undergo extensive background checks sometimes reaching into their lives off the web.

How are sectional Moderators chosen?

When voting upon sectionals (new staff members that moderate a specific section), all Global Moderators and Administrators will vote. Typically, Sythe and Matthew abstain from these polls as they are concerned with technical issues primarily. These polls cannot be dictatorially closed by one individual, though, in rare cases, an Administrator may veto a poll for various reasons, such as if there is controversy, allegations of bribery, etc. A 60% supermajority is used and must be met for the promotion to take place.

How are Global Moderators chosen?

Global Moderators are chosen in the same way as sectionals.

On what basis are staff chosen?
  • Activity
  • Adherence to the rules
  • Reports made (and validity of)
  • Quality of posts
  • Helpfulness
  • Attitude
  • Integrity & trustworthiness
  • Honesty
  • etc.
What is the staff structure?

The staff structure is as follows:

Sectional Moderators < Global Moderators < Administrators

The Administrators


Tier 1: Special Administrators
Special Administrators are responsible for distinctive tasks which are not always visible to ordinary users. They are ordered here by seniority. Changes to the members of Tier 1 almost never occur, even compared to the already small number of administrator promotions.

Sythe
Owner, Arbiter of Last Resort
As the name suggests, Sythe is the owner of Sythe.org. Whilst Sythe discusses certain initiatives and promotion candidates with other Administrators, he is primarily concerned with ensuring the site is running smoothly and is rarely involved in site management unless there is a concern other administrators cannot address. He is the arbiter of last resort for all inter-staff conflicts and has the final say in all major decisions, including Administrator promotions.

Matthew
Second in Command, Head of Donations
Matthew is responsible for processing the site's donations, and is the creator and maintainer of the Donation Center, the Ranks and Username Images system, the Mobile and NextGen series of styles, and various other projects. As second in command, Matthew has authority over all administrators other than Sythe.

Govind
Administrative Supervisor, Secondary Programmer
Govind's primary role is to monitor the actions of general administrators, and counsel them as necessary. He also contributes to technical development with BBCode, Plugins, Scripts, and Templates.

Tier 2: General Administrators

Equally important to the Administration team, general administrators handle management of staff, staff recruiting, staff dispute resolution, IP bans, distribution of TwC ranks, creation and altering of forums, and other administration required around the site.

They are:

Verts

FireZ

n4n0

How are Administrators chosen?

The way Administrators are chosen varies. Unlike with the promotions of sectionals and Globals, all Administrators - including Sythe and Matthew - are involved in choosing a new Administrator. Whilst an official poll is not conducted for such promotions, and indeed the decision always ultimately Sythe's, Sythe traditionally consults other Administrators, requesting their opinion and position.

If you have any further questions, feel free to post them and I will do my best to answer them.

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Default Re: How are the Staff chosen and what is the Staff structure?

I'm glad to see that there is a thread made on this. I'm sure it will help people understand how staff is chosen and it'll help avoid people asking questions on the topic. It also helps because a lot of people question the activity of moderators and admins, and this definitely provides everything you need to know
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: How are the Staff chosen and what is the Staff structure?

Always wondered who people like Ughster were... Thanks for explaining.
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Old 06-24-2010, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: How are the Staff chosen and what is the Staff structure?

Thanks for the info Finn, it is good to see the "illusion" that sometimes the staff tends to keep everything to themselves brought down a bit, I am sure many new members will find this helpful and have a goal to shoot for ; )

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Another well-written, sophisticated post by Finn

Thanks for writing this It's sure to help members who are wondering about Moderator status and how to get it.
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Nice guide; I've always wondered about this. Thanks.
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Interesting, knowledge is good. Thanks for posting.
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Thanks for posting. It clears up a lot of things
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I hope this is stickied! Some good info here, Thanks for posting this.
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Thanks! I've always wondered how it all works
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An excellent guide, Dear Leader.
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Default Re: How are the Staff chosen and what is the Staff structure?

This helped me understand a little more.

When are polls made?
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Default Re: How are the Staff chosen and what is the Staff structure?

How do you decide whether or not a section needs extra moderators assigned to it?

Nicely written guide, anyway, and not hard to digest.
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Post Re: How are the Staff chosen and what is the Staff structure?

This Guide could only help others, as it provides a concise explanation on how one important part of this site works. Also, I don't believe all Staff and Official Middlemen are voted into position just for what they do, but also by whether the Staff actually know them. I'm not saying that the votes are biased based on opinion, but how they have become known and are known by the Sythe.org Community.

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Great guide, thanks Finn
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Default Re: How are the Staff chosen and what is the Staff structure?

Hmm interesting. I always thought it was a "it's who you know" deal. So how are normal members considered for sectional position? Do one of the staff suggest him or...?
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This helped me understand a little more.

When are polls made?
No specific time. They're generally made by Administrators, though Globals are also permitted to make them. Polls generally come in response to resignations or demotions, or are sometimes, albeit less regularly, simply spontaneous. Though promotions usually take place in batches (and thus a number of polls take place concurrently), some individual polls do occur.

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How do you decide whether or not a section needs extra moderators assigned to it?
Well, I have a personal minimum number of Moderators that I like to see in sections, and if there aren't enough, a poll is made.

For example:
Market - 5
Runescape - 3
Graphics - 1
Off-Topic - 2
etc.


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This Guide could only help others, as it provides a concise explanation on how one important part of this site works. Also, I don't believe all Staff and Official Middlemen are voted into position just for what they do, but also by whether the Staff actually know them. I'm not saying that the votes are biased based on opinion, but how they have become known and are known by the Sythe.org Community.

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Obviously. It's difficult to vote on someone if you don't know who they are.

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Hmm interesting. I always thought it was a "it's who you know" deal. So how are normal members considered for sectional position? Do one of the staff suggest him or...?
Well it is and isn't. Whilst a poll requires a majority (and a majority is hard to acquire if some abstain from voting due to not knowing who the candidate is), there have been times where staff have been promoted because they have been deemed active and trustworthy, such as in Skele_Master's case, where very few staff actually knew who he was.
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Default Re: How are the Staff chosen and what is the Staff structure?

Great post Finn, i knew how some of it worked but this cleared it up alot.

Very helpful.

Had a question though - How were the initial guide verifiers chosen? And will there be a "promotion" to replace Imagination? Will sythe continue with the whole guide verifiers idea?

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I have no idea how the guide verifier choices are being made, as they're not being made by a staff vote, which would have been my realm. As it's not, you might have to ask another Admin. Sorry!
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Old 06-25-2010, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: How are the Staff chosen and what is the Staff structure?

Well this sums up some of my questions, but it still doesn't answer some.

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