Can't decide which one to get. The reason I'm comparing the 1st gen iPhone instead of the 2nd gen, is because the 2nd gen iPhone is out of my price range.

Option 1: Get an iPhone (1st gen) off of ebay. Jailbreak it. Functions like an iPod Touch accept it has a camera. I'm not actually going to be using it as a phone, the only reason I would choose this option is because I want the camera. Another drawback with this option is that I'm voiding any kind of warranty from Apple by jailbreaking it, and as far as I know.. you can't reverse that. I'll also be stuck with the aluminum backside instead of the new curved/black backside. Also -- can you even upgrade the firmware on a jailbroken iPhone via iTunes? Or will iTunes deny it if it's jailbroken? Not to mention i can't seem to find a set/average price on a 1st gen iPhone.

Yays: Functions the same as an iPod Touch, but WITH the camera.
Nays: Old style backside (aluminum), voids warranty/support, may have trouble upgrading firmware later on? May cost a bit more?

Option 2: iPod Touch (current gen). Has everything I want as far as software goes (wifi, music, apps), but will not have a camera. I would be sacrificing the camera, but I would also have the warranty. I would also get the newer/sleeker backside.

Yays: Warranty, newer design, no problems upgrading the firmware later on.
Nays: No camera.

Edit: Most ebay auctions for 1st gen iPhones are anywhere from $250 to $400.
Edit: Anybody know where I could buy a 1st gen iPhone besides ebay?

if you buy the ipod touch, you can buy a warranty for it to change the battery out ever 4-6 months, cause it loses the ability to hold it's charge after a while, your battery will only have like 30mins of use, geek squad will do that if you buy the warranty, if you buy it off ebay, it may have a bad battery, the cammar may have a scratch, your also carring around something twice as thick as the ipod. if your going to use it as an ipod get the ipod if your going to use it as a phone get the iphone. OH and if you chose to buy the iphone check craigslist first!

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Buy a real camera, get the iPod Touch.

Win/Win

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I'll probably go with Jansen's idea.

I'm going to get the 8gb touch.

About buying the touch.. I'm finding them on craigslist for around $175-$180 w/ pics. Most of them claim to be only a few months old, and 2 were unopened/new. So I can either do this and not get the warranty, or spend $230 for a new one from Apple that would include the support/warranty.

Input?

New one, you never know with those things.

50 bucks more, but at least you know what your getting is perfect.

i would say get the ipod touch in the store for $50 more. its worth it cause if something were to happen to it you can get it fixed. and just buy a camera like jansen said

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the touch lol its cheeper and easer to maintain

the touch lol its cheeper and easer to maintain

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the touch lol its cheeper and easer to maintain

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the touch lol its cheeper and easer to maintain

iPhone 1st gen can be jailbroken, and yes it voids the warrenty but if you restore it via itunes apple is none the wiser. 1st gen runs on the exact same firmware as the 2nd gen, you just upgrade via itunes and then run the jailbreak (WinPWN is the best imho). But honestly, if the only reason you're buying the iphone is for the camera, don't, it's slow-shutter 2MP shit, so go with the 2nd gen iTouch and jailbreak that!

*TDD hugs his jailbroken 1st Gen iPhone*

Yeah the camera is the only reason I would go with it.

I'll just take everyone's advice and go with the touch, the iPhone is more expensive anyway..

1st gen iPhone definitely.

Why the random conflict of interest when everybody is opting for the iPod touch?

i think 2nd gen touch.

If all you want it for is the camera then just buy a camera?

1st gen iPhone